Philippe Agrain speaks in this interview about a turning point in the information ecology and the "war on sharing". Agrain is interested in the questions of an information continuum through cultural and intellectual exchange emphasizes that the internet changed the artist-user relation. Seeing Social Rights as more important than Copyrights he discusses a digital flatrate system and other models of financing cultural production . According to Agrain it is also more important to help produce cultural products through upfront financing less than through renumeration afterwards. Regreting the overall rise of control society instead of open exchange he addresses the gap between winning the intellectual arguments on a reform of intellectual property rights and the political realities.